What has gone wrong at Liverpool this season? Scholes and Jenas on title defences in Premier League

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Πριν 7 ημέρες

Liverpool's title defence is statistically the worst ever after 25 games as they have dropped 33 points compared to the same point last season. On Premier League Tonight, Paul Scholes and Jermaine Jenas looked at what has gone wrong.
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C L
C L Πριν 13 ώρες
Jens is such a lightweight compared to Scholes
masere
masere Πριν 19 ώρες
At least Liverpool have only had a bad title defence once.
Rod Williams
Rod Williams Πριν 23 ώρες
Tackle of the season maybe?
Joe Lynch
Joe Lynch Πριν ημέρα
Natural drop off in performance after 3 years of excellence, injuries, lack of cover for injuries, lack of tactical versatility.
rocstar2001
rocstar2001 Πριν ημέρα
The impact of losing the top 3 CBs and using your best DMs as CB replacements disrupts almost half the team. Man City complained hard enough about losing only 1 CB for a season.
zPAKK
zPAKK Πριν ημέρα
I find it funny how they show the worse point drop-offs by previous league champions because it shows that nearly every season since 2014/15 someone takes a new top spot (bar Man City) so who's to say Man City won't next year?
zPAKK
zPAKK Πριν ημέρα
Imagine if Arseanal won last year
AndreasNV
AndreasNV Πριν ημέρα
This was a nice Sky Sports broadcast, hey, Jermaine?
Alex Fearn
Alex Fearn Πριν 2 ημέρες
Why is Jenas having a say? Invite me on next time - I’ve won as much as him in the prem
Damien LEEN
Damien LEEN Πριν 2 ημέρες
Eh Foxy...when Keane was out for most of the season with that injury Utd won bugger all...so whoever came inti ur team did bugger alll...so stpp going on about no strength in depth for Liverpool
Arron Bowers
Arron Bowers Πριν 2 ημέρες
The title of this video is the most ridiculous question I’ve ever seen!
Forever England
Forever England Πριν 3 ημέρες
Now Robertson shouts at players instead of tackling them is one of the problems.
Instinct Matters
Instinct Matters Πριν 3 ημέρες
To be fair even with VVD and rest out defence around, Liverpool was still conceding goals. First game of PL Liverpool conceded 3 goals.
Max Heimann
Max Heimann Πριν 3 ημέρες
liverpool might miss the cl - so tiago went from cl winner to euro league... and klopp teams tend to become slightly worse after some years - look @ bvb 7s season - from 2. to 7. -and in liverpool now from 1. to 6... also they `ve been realy biten by the injury bugg... losing van djik was just devasting... (also guardiola would probably trade his championships for 1cl...)
Akii 24
Akii 24 Πριν 3 ημέρες
Imagine Utd without Rio and Vidic for a whole season and having to play Fletcher and Scholes at the back😂😂 And then they get injured😂😂
Iz Muhd
Iz Muhd Πριν 3 ημέρες
We got brown,evans,O'shea or carrick will fill that spot.. Sir Alex was a Genius.
jakenconor
jakenconor Πριν 3 ημέρες
Losing Keane was like losing three.... Says it all . Thats greatness
Eppu Talvinko
Eppu Talvinko Πριν 3 ημέρες
Is it really still needed to ask when everyone can see it🤣
Life is Blessed
Life is Blessed Πριν 3 ημέρες
Van Dijk,Gomez,Matip,Henderson,Fabinho,Jota all first team players that play a massive part in the way Liverpool attack,When Van Dijk and Gomes/Matip are in defence it allows robbo and trent to charge forward,Fabinho Henderson Wijnaldum protected the back line and wing backs too allow Mane Firmino and Salah freedom to attack.Liverpool Defend and Attack as a unit and when 5-6 first team players are missing any team would struggle,if Man City lost Laporte,Dias,Stones Ricardo and Gundogan all around the same time they would struggle...YNWA
Aniq Ahmad
Aniq Ahmad Πριν 3 ημέρες
Van dijk is like superman to loserpool they relied this guy too much but when he is gone well they become a loserpool 😏
sammië rosexx3
sammië rosexx3 Πριν 3 ημέρες
I read somewhere scholes is a bag of stone and jena has charisma thats why hes included... I agree on the scholes part but the 2nd part not so much...
Alan Rowell
Alan Rowell Πριν 3 ημέρες
Scholes-"We lost Roy Keane for 7/8 months" ya and Arsenal won the league, kind of contradictory point youre making there Paul.
Ice Cool
Ice Cool Πριν 3 ημέρες
It is abundantly clear that Klopp thought the first XI would never get injured and keep the same pace for years. To be fair they have done it for the last 3 years but now the squad is so depleated Compared to other teams around them, their subs are so weak- Origi, Jones, Ox, Keita, Adrian. No game changers
K2edg
K2edg Πριν 3 ημέρες
"Worse title defense ever!!" when i heard that i was expecting more than 1 point difference.......... i mean Liverpool don't lose at Anfield and to lose 4 in a row there is some thing really wrong, on top of that the conversion rate has dropped from 22% to 9% so Firmino and mane are having this season off for a rest........... On another note truly great to VVD back in training!! hopefully he will be back training with the first team very shortly and it's looking like late march early April for a return :D
Arif Khan
Arif Khan Πριν 3 ημέρες
what is with the airport announcements?
realnesx
realnesx Πριν 4 ημέρες
Liverpool luck has been bad klopp and Allison lost there parents and the injuries are on another level. Liverpool Team decapitated only players not getting injured is mane firmimho and salah which is why they must be drained out playing every game
borray s
borray s Πριν 4 ημέρες
Lets not forget that BBC paid Jenas' opinion on football 😂
Ash Williams
Ash Williams Πριν 4 ημέρες
Love how scholes didnt wanna get into whatdve happened to united without vidic Ferdinand, he wouldntve won nout
borray s
borray s Πριν 4 ημέρες
@Ash Williams only league cup? Lol Klopp would be extremely grateful if he ever had a chance to win league cup this season.
Ash Williams
Ash Williams Πριν 4 ημέρες
@borray s yeah with vidic and Ferdinand and that was only a league cup.
borray s
borray s Πριν 4 ημέρες
United won league cup and finished 2nd in the PL 09/10.
Joe Cully
Joe Cully Πριν 4 ημέρες
Problem is having to play our 2 best midfielders, Henderson, fabinho in defence.
lartiev Qays
lartiev Qays Πριν 4 ημέρες
Scholes..yups..super legend's..m That boi?...who?... damnit..need to google...
swamp thing
swamp thing Πριν 4 ημέρες
Pickford knew exactly what he was doing !
awesome x Innocent
awesome x Innocent Πριν 4 ημέρες
I've always thought that klopp is not the genius he was said to be... He just stumbled upon something the premier league wasn't ready for when becoming Liverpool manager but he was never really that good.. I just think this has been coming for a while, managers don't just become geniuses by changing from Germany to England.. I'm sure from now on it will be like Dortmond all over again
borray s
borray s Πριν 4 ημέρες
Nonsense. Klopp is the best manager in PL atm. what hes done so far is nothing but miracle. People need to start asking question about FSG commitment to the club, its been 2 years since they made serious investment.
colin francis
colin francis Πριν 4 ημέρες
pretty simple really. last season city lost laporte ,one player was 17 points adrift. liverpool have lost 5~6 key players in key positions mainly defence and that has affected trent and robinson going forward providing for the front three
Aurun 50
Aurun 50 Πριν 4 ημέρες
Injures, too reliant on Van Dijk because Van Dijk was so crucial in the attacking and defending.
Andybdub
Andybdub Πριν 4 ημέρες
WADA must be showing up at Anfield alot more these days with all the asthmatics in the squad
ng
ng Πριν 4 ημέρες
remember the season when they flop a 20 point lead??? thats why
Steve L
Steve L Πριν 4 ημέρες
Liverpool are mid-table because they don't get penalties
Paul Johnson
Paul Johnson Πριν 4 ημέρες
God jermaine jenas is annoying and WHY IS HE EVERYWHERE
Seb
Seb Πριν 4 ημέρες
People's pure, blind hatred for Liverpool has literally made them ignore context and history.
Trophy Guide 101
Trophy Guide 101 Πριν 4 ημέρες
If there is one thing I have learnt from reading GRpost comments its that their form has nothing to do with several key players being injured and other key players being forced to play out of position, the truth is the team that won the CL one year and the Premier League the next were just faking it the entire time. They have been exposed for Championship level team they truly were all this time...
George Tolofari
George Tolofari Πριν 4 ημέρες
Great title defence is not fair were man city supposed to get 121 in 2019
Mason Turner
Mason Turner Πριν 4 ημέρες
2005 all over again. One hit wonders
Trophy Guide 101
Trophy Guide 101 Πριν 4 ημέρες
Surely two hit wonders with the CL the year before?
Bob Shrubb
Bob Shrubb Πριν 4 ημέρες
I have worked it out Leicester had 53 points after week 25 when they won the title, the following season they had 23 points at the same stage the following year, this season we have 40 points, so we have accrued 17 more points after 25 games so how are we worse?
Bob Shrubb
Bob Shrubb Πριν ημέρα
@borray s people are saying this City team is the best ever, I'm confused by it because at this stage last season we had way more points the bias is so strong, the footy writers love Pep so much
borray s
borray s Πριν 2 ημέρες
@Bob Shrubb uh well i agree. Thats exactly my point. Liverpool bcame the worst defending champions just bcause how good they were last season. Hence why i find it ludicrous.
Bob Shrubb
Bob Shrubb Πριν 2 ημέρες
@borray s exactly it does but that should not have anything to do with the points this season
borray s
borray s Πριν 2 ημέρες
@Bob Shrubb it shows how good liverpool was last season.
Bob Shrubb
Bob Shrubb Πριν 3 ημέρες
@borray s Liverpool are 17 points better off after 25 games than Leicester were in their title defending season, yet somehow we are worse?
Mr JamToast
Mr JamToast Πριν 4 ημέρες
Sick of hearing this debate as if it's a mystery. They have their best midfielders who provide energy and breakup play in CB. Obviously they shouldn't lose to teams like Burnley and Brighton but man city are probably the only ones who ain't lost games like that.
James Hill
James Hill Πριν 4 ημέρες
Go on Scholesy.. Let them have it.
Bob Shrubb
Bob Shrubb Πριν 4 ημέρες
We are one point worse off than Leicester at the same point we are 33 points worse off we won our league with 19 points more than they won theirs.
Bob Shrubb
Bob Shrubb Πριν 4 ημέρες
So Liverpool are penalised for getting so many points after 25 games last season
What
What Πριν 5 ημέρες
There was a time when people were saying that this current liverpool team was better than United's treble winning side. United won THE treble, then went on to win the league again by an even bigger gap, and won it yet AGAIN the season after that. Liverpool got knocked out of everything last season and have absolutely disgraced themselves this season. It was never even a competition to begin with but its certainly put to bed now.
What
What Πριν 5 ημέρες
Liverpool's first PL title defence, and the PL's worst ever title defence. Laugh. Out. Loud.
Niallmcloughlinf1
Niallmcloughlinf1 Πριν 5 ημέρες
Jermaine seems to have forgotten the times United played Carrick, fletcher or Park at the back because they were so thin on defenders. Guess what, they still won, they adapted
Cacao613
Cacao613 Πριν 3 ημέρες
Did they do it on a regular basis for half a season?
Mahib-Ul Haque
Mahib-Ul Haque Πριν 5 ημέρες
Me looking at the thumbnail glad arsenal aren’t there 😂
Sledge Dog
Sledge Dog Πριν 5 ημέρες
This Liverpool team is a squad full of average players along with very few actual world class players who overperformed under Klopp for two seasons and are now back to their usual self.
saad Usman
saad Usman Πριν 3 ημέρες
not really. weve had many injuries
james orritt
james orritt Πριν 5 ημέρες
Thing is with Liverpool the season before they won was on a knifes edge, if city hadn’t been so fantastic they most likely would of won 2 in a row
K2edg
K2edg Πριν 3 ημέρες
10mm is all that stood between Liverpool beating City......... crazy how close that was. Still Champions league was a good condolence prize.
Kamikaze
Kamikaze Πριν 5 ημέρες
Liverpool winning the P/L last season was an anomaly, they will most likely have to wait 20 years to win it again.
Chris Griffin
Chris Griffin Πριν 16 ώρες
so getting 97 points just 1 point from actually winning then winning champion league then winning premier league with 99 points was anomaly get your self checked lol clown
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-- Πριν 5 ημέρες
They've had a bad season it happens, outside of City none of the big 6 have had good seasons.
Tendwai Nyakambangwe
Tendwai Nyakambangwe Πριν 2 ημέρες
bruh what, im a city fan but United have been quite good as well this season
david nope
david nope Πριν 5 ημέρες
Leicester have as many first team injuries but don't moan
game over010
game over010 Πριν 5 ημέρες
I think the crowd is also the main thing y liverpool is bad this season . Becuz liverpool crowd is well know for being the best crowd in the world there fans are the best but now there is no fans everything is quiet down IMO .
game over010
game over010 Πριν 3 ημέρες
@borray s yeah becuz u never been at anfield lmao .
borray s
borray s Πριν 4 ημέρες
Lol best crowds for first 5 minutes maybe
Austin Chimanga
Austin Chimanga Πριν 5 ημέρες
Liverpool management did not invest in the team, how can a team like Liverpool have 11 players only and a pathetic bench. Kloop cannot perform miracles in the event of injuries. Liverpool should have depth like Man City if it seriously want to compete and win trophies.
borray s
borray s Πριν 4 ημέρες
THIS. Beyond joke how people cannot see that the owner hasnt make any serious investment into the time in past 2 years.
jack barton
jack barton Πριν 5 ημέρες
Scholes isn't sure if they went on to win the league without Rio? They didn't.
borray s
borray s Πριν 4 ημέρες
United won the league in 10/11 where Rio was on the sideline for most of season. Lets not forget United had Frickin NEMANJA VIDIC aside of Rio Ferdinand.
Rahul Mahale
Rahul Mahale Πριν 5 ημέρες
That stat was totally bs coz to achieve points tally same or close to last year's points is not easy even if they were at their full potential. It's premier league bro
Mark Durham
Mark Durham Πριν 5 ημέρες
The only ex United player that talks sense without bias is Paul Scholes.
David Dunne
David Dunne Πριν 5 ημέρες
They'll be lucky to finish in the top 4, I think. If their injury issues get any worse, they might finish outside of the top 10. Right now, they're in 6th, 5 pts ahead of Arsenal, who are 11th. It's not impossible. And if they finish outside of the top 7, they'll only have domestic football for next season. If that happens, they'll probably lose key players who'll want to play Champions League football.
vAquaa xo
vAquaa xo Πριν 5 ημέρες
Why is this such a common topic all the time? It’s as simple as we have lost all of our CBs and have forced our midfield there so then our midfield and defence are shocking
ArielAprillia Rachmann
ArielAprillia Rachmann Πριν 5 ημέρες
Liverpool is the best. The best best who failed to defend the title. They just got lampard curse.
Lee Taylor
Lee Taylor Πριν 5 ημέρες
It's not solely on Virgil being out of action. Villa slapped Liverpool 7-2 with the full squad at the back
Everton FC
Everton FC Πριν 5 ημέρες
" TOP COMMENT- "Who knew when Pickford took out van dijk he took out the whole team... The best team in the world is a one man team? absurd!
hamberger 2 • 20 Years Ago
hamberger 2 • 20 Years Ago Πριν 4 ημέρες
I swear every loserpiss fan keeps pointing out if "VvD WaS tHeRe wE wOuLd wIn"
Ayaan
Ayaan Πριν 5 ημέρες
No one have fans.
Master Beethoven
Master Beethoven Πριν 5 ημέρες
Aren't they just back to normal?
Christopher Ojapah
Christopher Ojapah Πριν 5 ημέρες
One word . Injuries.
Frederic Thomsen
Frederic Thomsen Πριν 5 ημέρες
Huge epilepsy warning for every second of this whole video . Also huge epilepsy warning for every second of every video on GRpost .
luke garrard
luke garrard Πριν 5 ημέρες
Easy finish in the top four is he on drugs
hedge bets
hedge bets Πριν 5 ημέρες
Nigel Pearsons Watford finished Liverpool.
Broceliande Forest
Broceliande Forest Πριν 5 ημέρες
The Van Dijk excuse is rubbish... one word...Leicester.
pokro ken het vershil
pokro ken het vershil Πριν 5 ημέρες
last season man city had injury to so.........
Akbar Jahir
Akbar Jahir Πριν 5 ημέρες
This is NOT Just VVD. Remember Without VVD liverpool were top of the table on New years day... The main Problem is Henderson dropped into that defence. And No service foe front 3 !!!!
Maloney
Maloney Πριν 5 ημέρες
Why these man dress like a secondary school chav
Alpha Papi
Alpha Papi Πριν 5 ημέρες
I love how he references how great the manager has to be much more than the personnel
Thor
Thor Πριν 5 ημέρες
What has gone wrong? How about they've lost their 3 most senior centre backs, then two of their most important midfielders from the title winning side have been playing at centre back (instead of midfield) to cover the loss. So to recap: from the title winning side of the previous year, they've lost two key midfielders and two key centre backs. 4 key players from the starting 11
dudeguy24 1123
dudeguy24 1123 Πριν 6 ημέρες
Its because the grass on the football pitches is too long
Mark Gorman
Mark Gorman Πριν 6 ημέρες
Is anyone else aware that the people of Zanzibar Island use Paul Scholes as a reference point for an albino when stating the difference between a normal white person and an albino?? 😂😂😂
Max Hughes
Max Hughes Πριν 6 ημέρες
'Curtis Jones within his first year at Liverpool', he's been there since he was 9 🤣
Ivan Cloete
Ivan Cloete Πριν 4 ημέρες
I guess he meant , Jones is playing his 1st year in the First Team !!
Austin Menya
Austin Menya Πριν 6 ημέρες
Liverpool has gone wrong this season, that’s what
Reuben Hamer
Reuben Hamer Πριν 6 ημέρες
Like this is so stupid from the whole football world. Whats gine wrong... Hmmm let me think. All 3 Cbs out, 2 most important midfeilders having to play CB and now injured, only 6 players who havnt been injured for more than 3 weeks, most VAR against decisions. So yh, oh and the managers mum has passed and is being berated by the media 24/7. So not that much, i guess they just not the same anymore. Pathetic, stupid football journalists and comentators and fans.
Gary John Nuznyi
Gary John Nuznyi Πριν 6 ημέρες
The boys have been 100mph for the last 3 yrs and stocked trophy cabinet up with 3 most prestigious trophies in club football they are mentally and physically drained all for our enjoyment....they ran through brick walls for us the SUPPORTERS so now we lose we lose as one ....regroup and go again next season with injured back in starting 11 ....
the slash
the slash Πριν 6 ημέρες
Its all pickford's fault
jordan
jordan Πριν 6 ημέρες
Save yourself 8 mins. The problem is injuries. Now turn off haha
in4mus85
in4mus85 Πριν 6 ημέρες
In short, EVERYTHING!!!! Injuries, VAR, no fans, lack of confidence, complacency, the works
Liam Tuck
Liam Tuck Πριν 6 ημέρες
Its not just the injuries thats affecting Liverpool. Teams have figured them out. Liverpool have their winning formula and the first time someone found out how to beat the press was Atletico Madrid last season. Now everyone copies the 5 defenders and 4 in midfield and it works against liverpool as they cant break it down. Now all teams that are against liverpool need one goal and all of a sudden if they do everything right defensively, then Liverpool run out of ideas. Its whats happened when they played against West Brom, Brighton and Everton. If teams sits with 5 defenders. Liverpool really do struggle to beat the compactness of that team.
FN5
FN5 Πριν 6 ημέρες
Thiago has gone from a brilliant player to an absolute flop. Sideways passing constantly, no direct play, goalscoring or those lovely turns he's always been known to do, way too static on the ball. Looks a very average player atm.
Usman Chaudhary
Usman Chaudhary Πριν 6 ημέρες
Jermaine jenas talking like he has won titles, what a waste of oxygen
Puck
Puck Πριν 6 ημέρες
I can't take Jenas seriously, he's playing a part
Ben M
Ben M Πριν 6 ημέρες
Everyone keeps missing the point the injuries are all in the same position 😂
TrailZz
TrailZz Πριν 6 ημέρες
Could have sworn there was Liverpool’s arguing with me saying chelsea had the worst title Defense lol
Paul Beadle
Paul Beadle Πριν 6 ημέρες
To all the Liverpool fans who have been messaging me etc see even Carragher has said it shouldn't have a impact on the team situation fools
T G
T G Πριν 6 ημέρες
Aftershocks of the villa defeat
Barry Jive
Barry Jive Πριν 6 ημέρες
Of course they can’t keep it up. Since mid Oct they have never had less than 6 players out. Take all the centre halves out of the Utd side of the mid 90s and put Keane and Scholes there, make the team play the same number of games in a season shortened by 2 months and I wonder how that would have worked out.
Ash Williams
Ash Williams Πριν 3 ημέρες
@Alex Turner not like ferdinand to wes brown was much of a drop 🤣 and Leicester did have a spell dropping points...
Alex Turner
Alex Turner Πριν 4 ημέρες
Leicester had their full first team defence out for a month and had no drop off. Castagne, fofana, soyuncu and Justin.
Alex Turner
Alex Turner Πριν 4 ημέρες
And that’s all down to style of play (press like a maniac for 90 minutes), lack of squad rotation and not strengthening after each season. Victims of their own downfall. It didn’t happen to United because Fergie wasn’t naive.
Ash Williams
Ash Williams Πριν 4 ημέρες
Scholes sidestepped that tho 😂
Gary Heywood
Gary Heywood Πριν 6 ημέρες
Good teams win the title but only great teams retain it
Trevor Ross
Trevor Ross Πριν 6 ημέρες
There is no problem but the team is tried,they need a second team
Watson Crick
Watson Crick Πριν 6 ημέρες
Liverpool is one man team. No Van Dijk, no title for them.
Sarthak Gulati
Sarthak Gulati Πριν 6 ημέρες
2008-13 rio and vidic both had plenty of injuries and missed a lot of games, united also replaced vds with a young de gea, lost players like ronaldo and tevez, YET won the league 3 times, finished 2nd once by a point and once on goal difference. standards were never dropped, they were always the team to beat. not to forget before that United won 3 consecutive league titles 2006-09 and won the CL in 2008. I dont see this Liverpool side coming anywhere near that, there is no comparison
Naz Osman
Naz Osman Πριν 6 ημέρες
JJ should be on GRpost. He talks nonsense.
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